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The Yoga Pro Podcast

May 12, 2023

The words we use when teaching yoga practices matter more than you might realize when you are working with people who struggle with persistent pain.  


Do you know what nocebic language is?  If not, this is a must-hear episode!


Lisa Pearson joins us to answer that question and share insight on how seemingly harmless cues could be hurting your students and clients.


Lisa Pearson, 'Swami Swarupananda' is an 'ordained yogic priest' in the Kriya Yoga tradition. With nearly three decades of yoga teaching and yoga therapy experience, Lisa is a  Certified Yoga Therapist and an Approved  Professional Development Provider, through the International Association of Yoga Therapists, She is an E-RYT500 and Yoga Alliance Certified Education Provider. Swami Lisa is faculty and a program mentor for Inner Peace Yoga Therapy School, and is the Director and Lead Trainer for Pain Care Aware; a yoga teaching certification program which educates professionals about the intersection of pain science and yoga. Having lived with Fibromyalgia for over 30 years, Lisa teaches from her deep well of yoga wisdom, and also from her lived experience of pain.



-Lisa’s yoga beginnings

-Why we should embrace all of the ways that people can find yoga

-What pain care aware language consists of

-Why saying “if it hurts, don’t do it” can be harmful

-What Nocebic language is

-Messaging that helps people self regulate and create awareness

-Instilling self-efficacy and agency

-How pain can be a message and how to decipher it

-Language we should be using in our classes

-Inviting agency rather than giving permission

-Lisa’s favorite ways to invite discernment


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Music:  The State of Things (The Bouncy Song) by Rena Wren is used with permission.